By Eleanora Gilbert
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You went through difficult periods when you were very unhappy. And, understandably, you turned to meditation and self-enquiry in order to find a way out. Jeff: Absolutely. The search was the attempt to escape the misery I was experiencing. My whole life I’d been pretty miserable, but I reached a point of breakdown in my mid-twenties. There was such intense suffering and misery. The futility of everything was seen. Iain: The futility of life, was that at the core of your misery? Jeff: It was the heaviness of being a separate person.
Going back to what you were saying about John Wren-Lewis, Robert M May did a similar kind of analysis of people who, from their descriptions, felt that they had had an awakening or had seen liberation. In his book Cosmic Consciousness Revisited, he also came to the conclusion that not very many of them had meditated, or been on spiritual paths, or were in circumstances where you might expect a feeling of magic to alight on them from the heavens. They were not standing on mountain tops watching beautiful sunsets or anything like that.
Iain: Because when they’re born, they don’t feel separate? They just feel interconnectedness? Jeff: They don’t even feel that. There’s just what’s happening. ” No, there’s just the spontaneity, just what’s happening. And as adults we seem to move so far away from that spontaneity, that sense of aliveness, that simplicity. In our search to be someone, we become very heavy, very serious. We miss this – what’s happening – because we’re so busy looking for something more, something for me. Iain: Isn’t that the game?
Conversations on Non-Duality: Twenty-Six Awakenings by Eleanora Gilbert